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Farm Dogs Territorial?
Hi,
I seem to attract trouble from farm dogs when walking my collie.
Just walking down the road on the opposite side to the farm gate invites attacks or a barking accompaniment for a couple of hundred meters.
My dog is a large collie, he never barks except at cartoons on TV, Wagner and Bob Dylan on the car audio.
I guess this is not a problem to many as the lack of injuries on the challenging animals seems to imply. Although my dog is large, there are larger aggressive animals about, I'm sure.
I was thinking of maybe getting an ultrasonic hand held deterrent, but they seem to have a mixed reputation.
Is there any way of avoiding the problem and still remaining on good terms with the neighbors?
kwackers
Saturday, December 4th, 2021 Bring your dog for a walk in the car.
paddycrawford
Saturday, December 4th, 2021 Any route you can take, to avoid such a situation? Certainly not worth having an argument over. Maybe bring a big shtick with you. Any such deterent would probably only deter your dog from wanting to go on walks
nedzer
Saturday, December 4th, 2021 Thanks,
I go in the car to a scenic and popular spot. Strange dogs are never a problem though. I don't have him on a lead there and he will take off to socialise if he spots the opportunity. I call him back but generally the whole backside sniff and quick frolick takes priority.
Back home there is only one road and it's the dogs we see daily that are the problem. Visitors do not seem to be affected.
In a farming area it is impossible to find a clear route.
My dog is good on the road, he will adhere closely to the verge and is quiet. When I go past the gates I put the lead on in case he runs into traffic, he is placid though, it is merely a precaution.
On or off the lead, it's still a noisy snarling passage for a hundred meters or so.
It would be tempting to let him have at 'em, but I seem to recollect vet's bills being a little steep :-(
kwackers
Saturday, December 4th, 2021 I would be very wary of using any deterrents/devices on dogs and can tell you if you directed such a device on my dogs while they are on my/their land that I would follow up with legal action as you have intentionally harmed my dogs.
Please remember not all dogs are pets. Dogs were intended to herd, hunt, track, guard and protect. A lot of dogs still fulfill these roles.
Have you considered it may not just be your dog who is triggering this reaction but you walking too close to the dogs' territory? Do you get the same "welcome" on your own?
Have you considered those dogs pick up on your "dread" walking past them, thusly you are amplifying their reaction?
Bea
Sunday, December 5th, 2021 Their land isn't an issue. It's the public road. My dog was attacked this morning, he is kind of large and I had to pull him off the attacking dog.
Basically as I walk past the dog follows me down the road barking and snarling. I had my dog off the lead this morning as it was quiet and on or off the lead it makes little difference to this particular dog anyway.
I had gone past the house of the attacking dog and as usual was followed by the barking, snarling mutt. This morning he did attack though and my dog chased him into his yard and it was there I separated them.
The public road is the only way past the place, in the other direction I have next doors dogs and it's a similar thing, but there are a few of them.
If I cross to the other side of the road it makes no difference, it's taking a risk though as traffic is fast and heavy on a road that in places is only wide enough for one vehicle, I like to face the oncoming.
I really don't understand the doggy psychology. My pooch tries to keep away, head downish and never barks. When attacked though he will fight back. I have had to pull him off three dogs so far.
This mornings aggressor was at it again, following me down the road on the return journey with the barking and snarling bit. The thing was upside down and pretty helpless when I pulled Pooch from the top of him only an hour before.
I doubt that he picked up on my "dread". The previous separation was not for the faint hearted and I still have the puncture wound. Again, a different dog, but the same scenario.
My Pooch does not usually bark. Occasionally it happens, but I don't know what triggers him. It is not other dogs or visitors. The dog is very placid, he gets on fine with the newly hatched kwackers and chicks.
I am at a loss!
kwackers
Sunday, December 5th, 2021 High powered water pistol might be worth a try.
nama-man
Sunday, December 5th, 2021 Yes, although I am a little concerned if the poor mutt gets too spooked. All this is acted out on the road and I wouldn't want him scooting off into a car.
I think I have an ultrasonic distance meter in the shed, I'll have a rummage and see if that has an effect. Loud assertive commands to go home with opinions as to his parentage don't have an effect, but I will give the meter a go and maybe buy something dedicated if it has an impact.
The Amazon reports on dog repellents seem to be highly variable on the results obtained though.
kwackers
Monday, December 6th, 2021 Throw them some doggy treats every time your passing. Your enemy might just become your friend.
nedzer
Monday, December 6th, 2021 It genuinely crossed my mind, but I hate being followed down the road by a barking mutt, the thought of attracting him for a longer period goes against the grain and if he followed me home and wound up flattened, it wouldn't feel too good either.
One dog, male like Pooch who definitely isn't a problem barking sticks like glue to myself and indeed anyone with a dog.
Strange that he wasn't taken in the recent publicised spate of "dognapping" during lockdown really.
I sometimes see people walking the area with him in tow, It reminds me of the likeable pain that you get in pubs and people do their best to avoid.
kwackers
Monday, December 6th, 2021
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Farm Dogs Territorial?
Hi,
I seem to attract trouble from farm dogs when walking my collie.
Just walking down the road on the opposite side to the farm gate invites attacks or a barking accompaniment for a couple of hundred meters.
My dog is a large collie, he never barks except at cartoons on TV, Wagner and Bob Dylan on the car audio.
I guess this is not a problem to many as the lack of injuries on the challenging animals seems to imply. Although my dog is large, there are larger aggressive animals about, I'm sure.
I was thinking of maybe getting an ultrasonic hand held deterrent, but they seem to have a mixed reputation.
Is there any way of avoiding the problem and still remaining on good terms with the neighbors?
Saturday, December 4th, 2021
Bring your dog for a walk in the car.
Saturday, December 4th, 2021
Any route you can take, to avoid such a situation? Certainly not worth having an argument over. Maybe bring a big shtick with you. Any such deterent would probably only deter your dog from wanting to go on walks
Saturday, December 4th, 2021
Thanks,
I go in the car to a scenic and popular spot. Strange dogs are never a problem though. I don't have him on a lead there and he will take off to socialise if he spots the opportunity. I call him back but generally the whole backside sniff and quick frolick takes priority.
Back home there is only one road and it's the dogs we see daily that are the problem. Visitors do not seem to be affected.
In a farming area it is impossible to find a clear route.
My dog is good on the road, he will adhere closely to the verge and is quiet. When I go past the gates I put the lead on in case he runs into traffic, he is placid though, it is merely a precaution.
On or off the lead, it's still a noisy snarling passage for a hundred meters or so.
It would be tempting to let him have at 'em, but I seem to recollect vet's bills being a little steep :-(
Saturday, December 4th, 2021
I would be very wary of using any deterrents/devices on dogs and can tell you if you directed such a device on my dogs while they are on my/their land that I would follow up with legal action as you have intentionally harmed my dogs.
Please remember not all dogs are pets. Dogs were intended to herd, hunt, track, guard and protect. A lot of dogs still fulfill these roles.
Have you considered it may not just be your dog who is triggering this reaction but you walking too close to the dogs' territory? Do you get the same "welcome" on your own?
Have you considered those dogs pick up on your "dread" walking past them, thusly you are amplifying their reaction?
Sunday, December 5th, 2021
Their land isn't an issue. It's the public road. My dog was attacked this morning, he is kind of large and I had to pull him off the attacking dog.
Basically as I walk past the dog follows me down the road barking and snarling. I had my dog off the lead this morning as it was quiet and on or off the lead it makes little difference to this particular dog anyway.
I had gone past the house of the attacking dog and as usual was followed by the barking, snarling mutt. This morning he did attack though and my dog chased him into his yard and it was there I separated them.
The public road is the only way past the place, in the other direction I have next doors dogs and it's a similar thing, but there are a few of them.
If I cross to the other side of the road it makes no difference, it's taking a risk though as traffic is fast and heavy on a road that in places is only wide enough for one vehicle, I like to face the oncoming.
I really don't understand the doggy psychology. My pooch tries to keep away, head downish and never barks. When attacked though he will fight back. I have had to pull him off three dogs so far.
This mornings aggressor was at it again, following me down the road on the return journey with the barking and snarling bit. The thing was upside down and pretty helpless when I pulled Pooch from the top of him only an hour before.
I doubt that he picked up on my "dread". The previous separation was not for the faint hearted and I still have the puncture wound. Again, a different dog, but the same scenario.
My Pooch does not usually bark. Occasionally it happens, but I don't know what triggers him. It is not other dogs or visitors. The dog is very placid, he gets on fine with the newly hatched kwackers and chicks.
I am at a loss!
Sunday, December 5th, 2021
High powered water pistol might be worth a try.
Sunday, December 5th, 2021
Yes, although I am a little concerned if the poor mutt gets too spooked. All this is acted out on the road and I wouldn't want him scooting off into a car.
I think I have an ultrasonic distance meter in the shed, I'll have a rummage and see if that has an effect. Loud assertive commands to go home with opinions as to his parentage don't have an effect, but I will give the meter a go and maybe buy something dedicated if it has an impact.
The Amazon reports on dog repellents seem to be highly variable on the results obtained though.
Monday, December 6th, 2021
Throw them some doggy treats every time your passing. Your enemy might just become your friend.
Monday, December 6th, 2021
It genuinely crossed my mind, but I hate being followed down the road by a barking mutt, the thought of attracting him for a longer period goes against the grain and if he followed me home and wound up flattened, it wouldn't feel too good either.
One dog, male like Pooch who definitely isn't a problem barking sticks like glue to myself and indeed anyone with a dog.
Strange that he wasn't taken in the recent publicised spate of "dognapping" during lockdown really.
I sometimes see people walking the area with him in tow, It reminds me of the likeable pain that you get in pubs and people do their best to avoid.
Monday, December 6th, 2021