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Need advice for experiment

Have some red hens. 3 yrs old nearly. I want to see how many generations to take them from an egg factory with no mothering instincts to a bird that has a good meaty carcass AND good broodies. I was thinking of putting a silky cock with them first to get the brodiness then indian game cock with the silky cross offspring to add more breast meat OR should i go straight to indian game hoping broodiness would come from fathers line or maybe theres a better cock breed i havent thought of..
Thoughts and opinions please.....

Finefowl
Thursday, December 7th, 2017

Total waste of time and resources,using those red hybrid hens for any experiment is madness as they are already a cocktail of genetics bred for the single purpose of egg laying.If you really want to try something like this start with 2 pure breeds at least you have 2 sets of genes that you know.

Also have you ever seen the colour of Silkie meat its not something id be using thats for sure.

If you are a facebook user there are some groups that offer great advice on the breeding and crossing of birds for utility purpose perhaps look into more info before you start.Be perpared to cull a lot of poor quality birds if you that on this type project.

brian k
Thursday, December 7th, 2017

Thanks for your input brian but the whole idea is taking something that had all natural instinct bred out of it and bred to do just one thing and try to see if the instincts can be bred back in and how many generations it would take.
If i was to use purebred hens they would still have some of their broody instincts these are bred to do nothing but lay.

Finefowl
Thursday, December 7th, 2017

Bit of a pointless experiment really one cross to nearly any bantam or game and they will sit some red hybrids will sit and hatch but whats the point.why did the chicken cross the road.

paddycrawford
Thursday, December 7th, 2017

well i already have the red hens and thryre about 3 so its time for a new generation so basically what kind of cock to put with them to father the next generation?

and putting a bantam cock would bring back the broodiness, yes, but then theyre too small for the pot.

im also thinkin a rir or sussex cock would be good, both good dual purpose birds

Finefowl
Thursday, December 7th, 2017

is there a cock that would give me sex links so that i can sex the chicks when they hatch?

Finefowl
Thursday, December 7th, 2017

Your wasting your time as the lads have said.

Bonzie.
Thursday, December 7th, 2017

I've had red hens go broody, pekins, brahma. I think all they need is a place for a quiet nest

Torsten Schulz
Thursday, December 7th, 2017

This would be the easiest option for you to achieve all your looking for.

Step 1 Cull or rehome the red hybrids

Step 2 Buy a RIR Cock and some Light Sussex pullets

Step 3 Bred the above

Results The chicks will be sex linked (pullets will be a dark red colour while cocks will be white/yellow)The hens will good broodies. The cocks will be big enough for the pot in time.

Or the other option is breed a cock to what you have and have a yard full of rigs that will no good for the pot hard to sex and may or may not go broody

brian k
Thursday, December 7th, 2017

What are the names of these cross breeding groups on Facebook? Would love some experience and advice

Eggempire
Friday, December 8th, 2017

Try utility fowl.

Bonzie.
Friday, December 8th, 2017

Sorry it's utility poultry keepers!

Bonzie.
Friday, December 8th, 2017

Shamo x or asil x (largefowl not bantam) would cover your bases there just don't sell the offspring. Gamefowl hens even mixed breed are fierce devoted mothers.

tank girl
Wednesday, January 24th, 2018

Brian k im interested as to why you say light sussex and not la bresse as i believe bresse grow faster.. why do you say the sussex... ( i figure only way to learn is to ask questions)

Finefowl
Tuesday, October 23rd, 2018


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